363 Discussion 2-How the hell did this happen?

[excel-kleinwald]

It doesn't take another sharingan user to know how well someone uses a sharingan. and besides I think Madara Uchiha shouldn't even come into play since we have zero evidence of him even being alive, all we know is that he once talked to the Kyuubi.

[Shuyin]

It's not like Kyuubi just said that "One day I had a chat with a guy named Madara." He played him up to be an evil mofo. He didn't mention he was dead, so it's safe to assume he's alive. His history hasn't been revealed at all, and I doubt Kishimoto would leave it at that.

If it's not Madara, then it's someone that hasn't been mentioned before. There is no on e in the series that could possibly surpass the leader of the Akatsuki. I'm really getting tired of all the Sharingan stuff, so I hope I'm wrong.

[Megabuster]

Im pretty sure that just because of what you said madara isnt alive but he could be dead. I mean everybody built the 4th up to be a true beast but he is dead.

[excel-kleinwald]

It's not safe to assume anything, it isn't safe to assume he is either alive or dead. I mean he could bring in loads of new characters if he wanted and just because Akatsukii Leader is strong doesn't mean he can't be beat. I would say Naruto has the potential to beat this guy.

[Megabuster]

Naruto has a lot more potential then given credit for i mean look what happened during the time-skip.

[Shuyin]

Well being that he hasn't been said to be alive or dead, it's pretty safe to assume it's one or the other. And because all we have going for us is what Kyuubi said, I'm going to assume it's a taste of what's to come.

Everyone knows the 4th is dead. They say so in the first episode. In fact, whenever they speak about someone that is deceased they'll tell you.

I didn't say the Akatsuki leader can't be beat. Nobody even knows what he does. However, if Naruto can't handle Itachi by himself, how is he going to handle Itachi's leader?

I'm sure somewhere down the line Naruto will be Pein. Hell, he'll probably even beat the mystery guy. But he still needs to get stronger. He just learned about element chakra manipulation.